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"Why do you artists always get so pissed off when someone uses your artwork? You should take it as a compliment!"

 

"You should take it as a Compliment --"
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A compliment would be admiring an artist's work where they post it, and if you really want to use it that badly, complimenting them would be you having enough respect for them to ask first. 
Most of us don't get mad because you use it, it's because you use it without asking or pretend you didn't know who/where it came from when there's a link to where you can find the original artist on the image. 
Taking someone's car to crash it in a derby isn't a compliment to them any more than taking someone's art to wreck it or claim it is a compliment. More so without asking. 





"What about realism artists?! They copy from photographs all the time, no originality there but you don't yell at them for copying photos! What makes some one copying/tracing another artist's work so different?"


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Firstly -- When someone is referencing a photograph they are essentially looking at pure material. When you do this you are usually looking to draw something realistically and precisely enough to where it's recognizable and anatomically correct. 
Referencing is not the same as tracing. Copying? Yes, to a degree but there's a hook -- Copying a stock photo to ensure decent anatomy is different than taking another artist's work and copying/tracing it for anatomy practice. If their sense of anatomy is wrong you aren't learning anything at all. 
Photos can technically be someone's property but if they put it as stock or reference material they offer it for free license and use by others. They took the image with their camera but they forgo complete ownership in a way. 

Secondly -- Copying a photograph for anatomically correct proportions hardly renders an image 'not creative/original'. Creativity doesn't come from the references used, it comes from the artist's ability to use them in a creative and innovative fashion. Copying or closely referencing a photograph merely dictates whether or not the final outcome is either believable or properly proportioned. 


"If you didn't want it stolen, don't post it online."


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If I got money for every time I've heard this, I'd have a Ferrari by now... 
Look, just because it's there doesn't mean it's free to take. More so if it's got someone's name on it. My car being parked on the street doesn't mean someone can just hop in and take it for a spin -- "It was just sitting there, your name isn't on it!" 
"Online ≠ Mine" 
A store putting a plate of cookies out on the counter doesn't make them free unless they say 'free cookies!' and even then, you're better off asking in case it's not THOSE cookies that are free. Artists shouldn't have to be worried about their stuff getting ganked because people can't keep their hands to themselves online. It's called common sense. Use it. If you didn't make it or ask for it and get the 'okay', it's not yours. 



"I'm just using your character's likeness -- it's not like I'm claiming I drew it or created it!"


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And you can't create your own characters? I mean, you can write out everything about them so why not write out a description as well? 
I can't entirely speak for other artists on this one but creating a character is hard work enough let alone drawing it out to the specs you want. Many of us spend hours or even days-weeks-months trying to come up with decent characters and we put a lot of heart and soul into them. To you they may just be cool drawings but to us they're our creations; part of us. 
I think a lot of people are well aware that if you see someone with 20 different art styles in their list of characters chances are they didn't draw them. So it's not that people are claiming they drew them (not all the time anyway) -- it's again, using our IP for your RP without asking or respecting our rights and terms as the original creator.
You can't copyright ideas or even colours, markings, poses, and personality traits. However, images are something an artist CAN copyright. If you want to have a blue and orange wolf character that acts like Optimus Prime, fine. You can do that, but you can't take someone's wolf version of Optimus Prime and use it as a bio pic for your character without asking. Catch my drift?  
Write out a bio to describe your character, it works just as well if you're a good writer -- And if you're that hard up for a visual, ask or pay an artist to draw it for your personally. Then your character will be made up to specs you want instead of having to steal to get something close.







So you see, it's not that we're selfish whiny pissbabies... It's more because we love our work and we'd love you to enjoy our work as well. On OUR terms. If you respect an artist, respect their rights and terms. 
End of story.

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:iconmorningsunmanedwolf:
MorningsunManedWolf Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
100% true. As a person whose art got stolen a few times (and I am not a famous artist like you are), I can say that all you mentioned about stolen art is sad reality. Just today I found a new creative creation of stolen artwork from me. The person copied my style and heavy referenced a pic of mine. But was there credit given? ... No. The artist has also got a gallery full of different styles. Every single pic looks different. I hate it when people freak out like hell if you confront them about it. Once I asked a person to not copy my artwork again (after she traced a picture from my gallery) and to credit me on the current one. The person just mocked me and denied the fact that this pic was simply traced by one of mine. Then I REALLY got furious and wrote a nice little comment. Puff. He/she/it deleted his/her/it's account and never has been seen again. What a lovely ending ; ( *facepalm*
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Noviazi Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2015  Student General Artist
You're avatar represents the feels in this post. It really does.
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Weidenhof Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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MMDFantage Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
So true.
So very, very, true.
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OneEyedCanine Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Oh, I also wanted to comment, I was once on a new online art community called "MangaPug". I've long since abandoned it for this reason.
The creator, let me repeat that, CREATOR of the site, and added "purchase this art" as a feature on all artist submissions. 
There was no feature to toggle this, so I brought the issue up with him. 
He actually stated this. 

"Yeah, all of the funds go back directly to MangaPug. We don't even make that much off of it! And I mean, if you're going to put something online you're kind of forfeiting all ownership anyways by putting it out there for anyone to use." 

This was the creator of the site, needless to say, he had no business running it. 
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OneEyedCanine Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
I love the points you made in this journal, there are so many people that do not understand the thought and time that go into making original characters. 
Another thing I would like to point out that's kind of related (seeing that both of these would directly relate to undermining artists) is how artists get requested to do free work ALL THE TIME.
I am constantly having friends, family members, or people I don't even no asking me "hey, um, so I want you to do this super huge illustration, for free so I can make money off of it in this new *insert whatever here* I'm making! Oh, yeah, you can put it in your portfolio and get recognition!".
Every time I hear that, I always think "Wow! Yeah! Let me do 24 hours plus work for you FOR free, use up tons of my materials, all so I can put it in my portfolio which is a right I had anyways! I mean, who needs rent and groceries right?" 
It's so undermining! Same thing with ripping off other peoples work. I always wonder when I see those pictures on facebook that someone plastered stupid quotes all over, and think "so who's the artist that did this picture?" 
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KalineReine Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014  Professional Writer
Exactly! :clap: This is so true. Everything you said... I agree 100% :nod: And it's a shame that some people can't understand this. 
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Mike-Dragon Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I have only one thing to say about all this:

AMEN!!

As one who had his works stolen once, I relate extremely to all what is said in this journal. If I had to add anything to it, I'd just add that besides being part of us, the characters we create sometimes feel like our children. At least that is how I feel about my favorite character, my dragon character. He's almost like a son, to me. I'm pretty sure other artists besides me might feel this way about some of their characters, as well. They're so special to us at times that they are just like sons and daughters. Blood from our blood.
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Stettafire Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
people used to copy my work offline and it used to bug the hell out of me. Then people would say, you should be flattered that they want to steal your work. I was mortified. They couldn't throw a bigger insult in my direction. They even had the guts to sometimes accuse me of stealing their work, when they stole mine! The nerve
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NatsumeWolf Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2014
People used to say to me all the time that I should feel honored someone used my image
to reference off of… But the thing is that when they do that without credit and then bitch me
out when I ask for credit is highly disrespectful. How can I take that as a complement when
I view it as disrespect. 

People also tell me all the time " Oh I didn't know you drew it…"
When I have my god damn name and DA name on EVERY picture… 

Very well written and I am agreed. 
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CieloNord Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2014  Student Digital Artist
:O Nice call Ninja :D And btw, i've been completely dumbfounded by your art lately like :faint: it's really going amazing :D
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DobbysCookieSock Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
After reading a comment that basically said "Be glad I drew your character without asking, Im awesome. So I allow you to kiss my feet now."
I want to give you a medal for this journal even more xD
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goldentiqers Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2014
THankyou <3
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Veggiepea29 Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2014  Student General Artist
I love this article so much. This is unbelievably accurate! Cx thank you for posting it! It's cleared up a few things about tracing for me c: :iconsupertighthugplz:
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VenusTheInsaneOne Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014

Love, love, LOVE this article!

:iconclapplz: :iconclappingplz: :iconepicclapplz:

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:iconmilovanf:
milovanf Featured By Owner Edited Jul 22, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
You need to add this shit into your journal their bawwing when they get caught for stealing:
comments.deviantart.com/4/3428…
Okay, that last comment, :pointr: comments.deviantart.com/4/6378… deserve a medal for greatest stupidity on Earth. :roll:
:facepalm: How you can give original artist a fave score when you repost his art? You're giving a score to yourself, not to original owner. Plus, you're going into a deep shit for nothing. :roll: :iconseriously-plz:
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ErinTheEevee Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I got the stolen art removed from his page. We won't have to worry about him anymore.
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:iconmilovanf:
milovanf Featured By Owner Edited Aug 21, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Me too. You should see his bawwing under a journal of Art-911 I made. art-911.deviantart.com/journal… Little prick called me "jerkface" :lmao: What a butthurt! :rofl:
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ErinTheEevee Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
His gallery is empty now, and he's only blaming me for it. And I'm just like, I'm not the only one who reported you. I may have been the one to get dA to take a serious look at you, but it wasn't just me, you've had people reporting you for 3 years. All he kept going on about was some cat instinct or something like that.
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milovanf Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
:iconfacepalmplz: Idiot.
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ErinTheEevee Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Indeed.
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milovanf Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
And he claims to be 26/27. :roll: Show me those comments please, I want to add them in my report list. If they count as harassment, it would be enough for staff member to slap him a temporary suspension. Or even better, a ban hammer on his shitty account he made.
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ErinTheEevee Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Most of them were on his page, but he blocked me and hid all of my comments. There's a few here though:

comments.deviantart.com/4/1578…
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CucumberSempai Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Hooooly shit. It's almost hilarious how awful this is. But scrolling through his nearly empty now profile is hilarious as fuck. XD...

I seriously don't get how this person thinks they can keep getting away with this shit. 
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:iconmilovanf:
milovanf Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Tell me about it. :roll: He is 26 and don't know jack of shit a difference between nagging and explaining you the rules of dA.
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:iconcucumbersempai:
CucumberSempai Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
it's ridiculous. 

Amusingly so at this point though. : P
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:iconmilovanf:
milovanf Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Tell me about it.
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Detroness Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Wow. Joker Clap I just checked their profile/journal and that conversation... Kiara annoying 

I have no words, literally.

How have they not gotten banned off of dA yet? Wut? 

I honestly didn't think art thievery could get any worse than this... facepalm  But the excuse that the user is using... Wow, just wow. Facepalm 
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Stettafire Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
yup, some people proberbly shouldn't own a PC
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Detroness Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Exactly. 
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:iconmilovanf:
milovanf Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Yep. Those are my thoughts and face expression when I read that shit.
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Detroness Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I honestly have no idea how someone can be that blind to the truth behind what they're doing... And mean too. In their recent journal, they just went apesh!t at people who were simply speaking facts and warning that person that they could be banned from dA for what they're doing and then had the nerve to call those same people cyber bullies... 

I did not think it was possible for mankind to get any lower than this... Joker Clap Congratulations dear sir or madam, you have officially changed my opinion about mankind. I will be sure to avoid you from now on. 

On another note... Thank god that there are good people like you around. hug  You deserve a big hug  Let me hug you! Bro hug  :iconoldschoolownedplz: :icondragonhug: :icondragonglomp: and a freaking medal (or two) .: Gold Rosette :. for all your hard work to make dA a better place. :clap: I know this probably doesn't mean much but you have my respect and my gratitude for hanging in there.
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:iconmilovanf:
milovanf Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
:iconbowplz: Always there, to help you.
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:icondetroness:
Detroness Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
:iconoldschoolownedplz: Bro hug Let me hug you! hug 
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:iconmilovanf:
milovanf Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
hug
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Detroness Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
 :iconoldschoolownedplz: I hope this made your day just a little bit brighter. :hug:
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SeekerNami Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:applause: This needs to be said! ^____^
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JuliaChang231 Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Best thing I've read about this topic!
Very well written! :)
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LordMoonBiscuit Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014  Student Digital Artist
PREACH IT BRUTHA! PREACH IT TO THA LAWD! :iconcelebrateplz:
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KingGigabyte Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014  Student General Artist
THANK YOU, SO many people just can't seem to grasp this. 
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ShilaDaLioness Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
THIS SO MUCH! I'll favorite this so I can link people to this next time I receive one of these stupid excuses :P 
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Trishamonstah Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Hah, I love your gif choices in journals like these :iconbravoplz:
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TheRussBus Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2014
*Applaues even though I'm not an artist*
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CursedHybrid Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Amen!
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Karai0318 Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:iconbravoplz: Well written! I also enjoyed the gifts to emphasize the point as well. Thank you for sharing and enlighting the uneducated children about copyrights and stealing art property. I just hope they eventually learn before they get into trouble with this.
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someoneabletofindana Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
lewl that people can even be that fucking dense amazes me.
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BlazingStarO Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Worship :rainbowz-worship::worships2:

Thank you. Thank you so much for this. ;u;
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SageFutarki-Angel Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you, someone understands
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DarkxZero23 Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2014  Student General Artist
Amen to this
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MZies Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
This is epic.
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