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JimmyandtheSuncats Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2014  Student General Artist
I have had this sitting in my notification for some time now, I finally sat down and read it :) 
Thanks for sharing, it is very appreciated! 
I plan to open up commissions one day but my biggest problem is confidence in my skills, I think I'm improving on that though :)
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AdaStreet Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2014  Professional General Artist
Thank you for taking some of your time to write another well-thought-out piece on this topic! As someone newer-than-I-should-be to the internet side of freelance art, it is very helpful for me to get your perspective on things you've learned. I was trained to be a professional and there is a lot that I was taught by my professors and others, but I still lack so much of personal experience and application and sometimes I get a little down on myself but then I have to turn around and remind myself why I'm in the art business in the first place (and what my long-term goals are) and tell myself "yes I can do this, and there are so many nice and helpful people I can listen to, to help fill in the gaps of what I don't know! And I do have good skills, I just need to get them out where people can see them" ...and things like that.

Anyway, thank you for being so cool and patient with all the people who ask you things all the time. You are a positive force for good in this industry!
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Lieju Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2013
About haggling, though, there are huge cultural differences in whether it's accepted, and if you assume you'll be getting the prize you're asking.

On the Internet, where different cultures come together, I wonder if that causes a lot of issues?
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LeylaMarias Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I raised my prices to above a dollar for this. :3
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Yechii Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks! I've never been to a doughnut shop, Thanks for letting me visit :D

I actually didn't know you could convert points > currency o.o  I would have sold more stuff for points then :S
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pianof Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2014
IIRC there's some sort of restriction on that so maybe read more? Can't hurt and my apologies in advance if I didn't remember faithfully.
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JessiRenee Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
These two articles of yours are seriously the most helpful things I've read in getting my art business started.  Thank you for taking the time to write this!
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Hawkfire11111 Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
this helps more than the last journal did. i've seen many like the previous one, but they didn't help much. Sure i've raised my prices a few times, and i'm willing to do it again, but yet this is why i've posted on my own page a section just for those who think i charge too much/too little for my work, and i usually take those who have had more experience (ie. i think are better artists than me) more seriously and take their suggestions more often than those who's skills i see as lower than mine.

yet, it still takes harder work to find other artists who charge decently for work at my, or below my level. i just don't know what to search for. I'll set my  prices higher, but i usually only spend a total of max 5 hours on a single piece done in spare time to stave off boredom anyway. 

I'll take your advice, but if you're still curious about what i'm charging, check my page about thirty min from when this comment was posted.

Thanks Kato!~
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DatableDog Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Student Digital Artist
This is helpful, a very well written article. Nice work :clap:
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crystaldragonwish Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013
Omg thank you so much!!  Your journals are awesome!
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GH0STpixel Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013   Digital Artist
Thanks so much for posting this <3
I enjoy doing commissions. I've worked with a lot of people(with both buying and selling), and I can definitely tell who's more serious/professional with their business. I love it when the person I'm buying from is friendly and nice, but also does the commission correctly and on time. I'd go and commission those people again anyday! 
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Blueranyk Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
All of this is so true.
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Grypwolf Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
This sure is useful! Thanks for making this. ( also geee I feel weird now that you used my chart as example XD)
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NinjaKato Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013
:) (I used it since I'd looked over a few and yours was pretty easy to read and informative without being too flashy. I can remove it if you'd like? ^^; )
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Johnwest10002 Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2013
Uh, when were you born?

And also, are you human on this site? I'm just asking on what you're not a bot.
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NinjaKato Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2013
Why is it that important? 
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Johnwest10002 Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2013
Because I'm telling you, if you're not an evil bot.
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Grypwolf Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
No you don't have to, no. :O
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TheRockyCrowe Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Student Digital Artist
"If you're looking to make money (real money) doing what you love you will have to work to build up your skills AND confidence enough to be able to sell it with dignity rather than desperation."

THIS IS SO TRUE; that one line alone is worth money! XD lol But seriously, that quote describes the difference between 'starving artists' and successful ones.

Thanks for this very informative post! I feel you should make a book, E-book or even a small $8 pocket book,for all this information you've given.
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awkwaard Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Lovely post!
It took me years of taking small, fairly cheap commissions to realize I CAN'T improve while doing these cheap commissions, so it's a sad waste of time.
Yeah, it's money to get nifty trinkets and food, but it's literally had me in a downward spiral for the past few years because I can't really experiment/expand/broaden my horizons while repeating the same style over and over and over again for commissions so as to not disappoint the customers and deliver something unlike the examples they paid for.

If I would have spent the past year taking art trades and improving through personal art, I would have been a lot further along in my art skill at this point, a lot happier with my art, and would probably be able to charge three times or more what I've been charging for the sub-par work I've been dishing out for the past few years or so from the improvement.
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ZombieHun Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
hey, thats exactly how i felt and feel to this day about your statement.

Even though I dont have commission work flooding in (likely due to my prices)  I'd rather have nothing to do for someone else for dirt cheap because it gives myself more time to experiment with different materials, different drawing types, different constructions so I can evolve quicker at my craft.
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JMan455 Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013
I LOVEEEEE CAKKKEEEEE
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Blueranyk Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
OH MY GOD
CAKE

IT'S A LIE
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NinjaKato Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013
We all love CAKKKEEEEE
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SilverNachtmahr Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Really great article, Kato.
Just one more thing.
'I don't think you're work is worth that much'
You mean your :stare:
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NinjaKato Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013
Whoops XD Thanks!
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SilverNachtmahr Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You're welcome. ^^
And now I know I need to advertise a lot better... :shrug: I tried groups and forums. Do you have any tips for that?
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pianof Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2014
Comment on other people's work. Your icon's pretty attractive (is it your character?), so it piques interest. Your slogan of 'Cheap commissions are open!' turns me off because I get the idea that you think your art is bad and maybe you're right and I don't want to visit your page after all.

/runs away after dropping unsolicited advice hyuuu
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SilverNachtmahr Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ah, thank you. Yes, it's my main character. And they are cheap not because I think it's ugly, but because I'm doing them for an emergency, but thanks for the opinion. ^^
I know to comment, advertise, help other people and critique them if they want to, and just generally be social, so that's nothing new. But thank you anyways for your interest! :)
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pianof Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2014
Aah, I see. Maybe it's your choice of words-- if you wrote 'special limited time commissions' I think it conveys the same idea of 'lowered price' but in a more enthusiastic way? Maybe I just need more sleep. In any case, best of luck~ :D
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NinjaKato Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013
I'd advise you to just keep trying and wait it out. Find more groups if you can and make a banner on your front page. Post it so people can see it but don't be to obnoxious :XD: Hope this makes sense? 
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SilverNachtmahr Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Okay. Thanks! ^^
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ZayninaWolf Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Thank you so much for sharing this very useful information! I've learned so much! <3
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implike Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Great post. (:
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